A few days ago, three Muslim women were whipped for illicit intercourse until they were pregnant. While some quarters of the society raised hell, it only caused me to raise an eyebrow.
“Here we go again,” I said to myself. “This had better be good otherwise this will not look good.”
Seriously, I don’t care much about three women who got whipped as long as their partners get whipped too, if they were caught together. But the Malaysian media had a field day in blowing this out of proportion because the three became the first women in Malaysia to be whipped (two were given six whips while the other only four). So much so that it drowned the fact that four men were whipped with them for committing the same offence.
“Menteri Dalam Negeri, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein berkata, mereka telah disabitkan di bawah Seksyen 23(2) Akta Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan 1997 (Persetubuhan Haram) yang dijatuhkan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur antara Disember 2009 hingga Januari lalu.
Selain itu, beliau berkata, terdapat empat pesalah lelaki turut menjalani enam kali sebatan pada hari tersebut atas kesalahan yang sama.
”Pada 9 Februari lalu, kira-kira pukul 10 pagi, hukuman sebat syariah telah dilaksanakan dengan sempurna ke atas tujuh pesalah syariah. (Find the article here)
For the uninitiated, the whipping punishment meted out according to the Syariah Law is not meant to cause grievous harm, but “as a father would whip a child of his”. The whipping prescribed by the Penal Code however is serious shit. The three women were whipped six times in one go, and soon gave press conference and interviews. A rapist being whipped six times would be checked by a medical officer after each lash to see if he could carry on receiving. If the MO stops it at lashing #3, the rapist will have to do the other 3 lashings once he has been medically-certified as “fit for punishment.” And I tell you, so much flesh and muscles will be whipped out of the guy’s butt that he won’t be able to auto-lift his dick up just to pee!
There have you the differences between the Syariah whipping in Malaysia, and the Penal Code whipping.
Ayu, who was released from Kajang Prison last Sunday, said the caning was not painful and was over in a few minutes.
“I truly am sorry for committing the sin and I have repented. I feel that it is my responsibility to remind my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters not to commit sin, and that is why I am sharing my experience,” she told reporters yesterday.
Ayu was sentenced to a RM1,000 fine and caned four times.
She had heard about Muslims being caned for committing religious offences but never thought that such punishment really existed. (Read About It Here)
Anyway, all of them surrendered themselves to the Federal Territory Religious Department (JAWI) after delivering their child, or have suffered a miscarriage, or stillbirth or something.
The only thing I do not agree is the manner in which the punishments were carried out. All seven were whipped between December of last year and early this year. It should have been announced, or representatives of various women groups should have been invited and explained to about the whole thing, instead of it being a hush-hush operation.
Why am I writing this? I have had very little sleep and long days at work with lots to do, and was ready to turn in when someone, who asked to be added on MY FRIENDS’ LIST, who is known to try to engage me in talks on theology and politics time and time again, suddenly felt that 9.39pm is the best time to engage me in such discussions. He would steer the discussions towards politics and I have warned him time and time again to NOT get me involved in political discussions. Especially when he is partisan to one quarter, while I hate politics and ALL the political parties.
SORRY, BUT TO TRUST THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE IS AKIN TO TRUSTING THE POTABLE-NESS OF THE WATER INSIDE YOUR TOILET BOWL.
As such, all toilet water should not be drunk, be they the BN toilet, or the PR toilet.
I was just getting the final group of aircraft from my Airline Manager application to depart, when the Message Box came alive:
mengapa bapa yang rogol anak sendiri tidak dirotan tapi wanita senang di rotan ya?
Okay, what’s all this about? Where did this guy get his facts that rapists DO NOT GET WHIPPED?
I was least interested to be engaged in such discussions on a Friday evening: the commencement of the ME TIME period.
ya semua macam katak buat tak tahu ya
What the fuck? Now you call me a frog? Just yesterday evening someone called me BABI and almost got fucked by me in the ass with my fists, and now, some asshole decided it was okay to get me engaged in such discussions and poked me further for response by implying that I’m a FROG?
seriously not interested in such trivial matters
See, I was still being nice albeit annoyed.
yes, women being caned, raped and children too are small matters until it knocks on your door and spills your ricebowl
At this juncture, my mind was going like: WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, ASSHOLE? But still, I was composed:
tell that to them
they were caned for committing an offence under the syariah law
i have, i am only asamed of those who pretend to look the other way
He was probably getting pissed too as he had his first typo up there.
raping a little kid is tried under criminal law…you still get jail and caning
and caning under syariah law does not hurt as much as caning under criminal law
if u are implying that i am looking the other way, i suggest you take that back
Okay…I was pissed by then. But still he carried on:
not if u have seen the research sisters of islam has done, many are hushed up in the name of maruah
Okay, they have done their research. But why take it out on me? WAS I THE GUY WHO WHIPPED THEM, YOU FUCKING IDIOT? (That was only inside my head then).
why are u discussing this with me?
r u going religious on me now?
wanna talk theology?
hv u seen a person being caned for rape?
if u haven’t do go to a prison and have a look
i had to watch one as part of my course
if u haven’t do go to a prison and have a look
I carried on to say:
if these women were caned according to the penal code, they wouldn’t be standing to tell the tale
At this point, he retorted:
u don’t get do u
Get what? Why the fuck do you want me to get what at all? What a pain in the ass this guy is!
u don’t get it
u r just interested in taking it out
come…give it to me
whipping under the syariah law is only to serve as a reminder
Now, he gets more pissed:
are u blind to how they are manipulating religion and the law against women and quiet on those who are fucking their kids and cops raping women in their police lock ups?
Okay, he’d just used the F word. First, he called me a frog, now he’s just used another four-letter word beginning with F. Now, why the fuck tell me all this? Am I the bloody Prime Minister? The King?
Still, I remained composed. And at this point, this is so NOT ME!
whipping under criminal law is a punishment so they don’t do it again…the amount of flesh and muscle torn
Obviously, that was not enough for him. I seriously did not know what he wanted out of me!
which part of selective justice don’t u understand?
Can someone tell me what is seriously wrong with this asshole? He wanted a reply, I gave him one:
mr gomewz (Gomez is his surname…my typo because by this time I felt like whacking the guy)
if u r interested in picking a quarrel right now, i suggest u stop
go write to the papers or preach how islam is fucking crap in your church
don’t preach to me
u have no fucking idea about anything
selective justice my ass
how ma(n)y women have been caned as opposed to men caned and jailed for raping?
Obviously this guy has a one-tracked mind, that he does not open his eyes to see things 360-degrees:
what happened to those guys who fucked them, why are they let off scott free or are they related to umno regime
I’m sorry. But everything bad has to be related to UMNO. Like I said, if he trusts others, try drinking the water inside his toilet bowl. And obviously he has forgotten my previous warnings about talking about politics:
i told u not to speak about politics with me
so fuck off
if u wanna talk politics, find someone else
ok then get off my list
Somebody must be suffering from bad memory lapse. First, he forgot about my previous warnings on political talks, and now he has forgotten that it was he who asked to be added on my list.
u never listen to the news
the men were caned too
this shows how narrow-minded u r
and excuse me
i never asked to be added
so get off mine
For a man of the church, he sure knows his F words. I’m amazed. People tell me that he is a research or academic officer or something at the church. Is that a job or what?
Get a life!
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the ones that should be whipped are the politicians and the religious imams – for thinking that they and only them are the right ones. absolutism suck – it promotes superiority complex, if not napolean complex.
Well, yeah. A lot of the syariah law that is prescribed are based on interpretations along a 1500-year way. For example, no where in the Quran says that an apostate must be put to death, and this was explained to my father by the late Prof Ahmad Ibrahim whose name now lends to the Ahmad Ibrahim Kulliyah of Laws at the IIUM.
However, this posting is not meant to debate on the rights or wrongs of the canings, but merely to show if one does not read and understand things, it makes one a fool.
Oh my goodness! I am so sorry John, for indirectly getting this fella to notice you. I really dont know what to say cas i am in total shock!
Please John, not all of us are like him. I do sincerely apologise.
That’s okay, Anna. You’re not at fault. I liken him to a jester in my court, someone I can make fun of. When I find him no longer funny, I’ll behead him.
bro, at first i thought it’s some comments. i mean, real comment. but then i realize it’s not! 🙂 some people just like to argue no matter what. when they can bash us, silent us… they feel happy. weird, but i just prefer to ignore.
wonder if any penalty applies if anyone throws underwear during the Tom Jones concert?
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